Hermann Zilcher

[Alan Howe]

This may be one of the most beautiful CDs of late-Romantic Lieder available...
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Hermann-Zilcher-1881-1948-Lieder/hnum/9699621

[petershott@btinternet.com]

Struth, Alan, that's certainly sticking the neck out! What's the evidence? After all, you're always insisting (absolutely rightly in my belief) that all claims made within the forum should be evidence-based.

[Alan Howe]

Well, just listen to the excerpts...
...and I did say 'may be'...

[Alan Howe]

...and the objective was actually to stimulate discussion of Zilcher (hence the title of the thread is the composer, not just these particular Lieder).

[petershott@btinternet.com]

I wasn't being rude, Alan! After all, your suggestion was....well it almost had something quite audacious about it!

I hope the stimulation works! Among the 1000 or so hopes that lurk within my breast is to one day get my hands on the Zilcher piano quintet. I've had people telling me it is astonishingly good, and cor blimey, almost up there with a rather well known pf quintet in F minor and composed in 1864.

That's some claim! And only one way to test the truth of the claim. Trouble is: given what I believe is its sole recording, the Amazon wide boys want a heck of a lot of loot for it.

Oooh, wouldn't the world really be a fun place if we ran a record company (with, of course, an unlimited budget)!

[jerfilm]

I have his Piano Concerto in b on an old cassette which as I recall, was a pleasant listen.

Jerry

[mikehopf]

Alan's eulogy to Zilcher inspired me to listen to the old Nazi's chamber music again.

His Piano Trio Op.56 is most enjoyable with its Variations on a Welsh Tune ( The Ash Grove).

I also have his Piano Quintet, Piano Concerto and Violin Concerto No.2 if anyone is interested.

You can download his 4 Songs and some works for accordeon (!) from Concertzender... just Zoek ( Search): Zilcher.

[Rainolf]

Zilcher's Piano Concerto has found its way to Youtube. A enjoyable piece, like the other music I have heard by him so far (Piano Trio and Piano Quintet):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ig0y46r5oE

[jerfilm]

Any or all of those works would be appreciated. 

Jerry

[Alan Howe]

If you have the time, Mike...

[Peter1953]

This topic made me listen again to Zilcher's Trio for Clarinet, Cello and Piano in A minor, op. 90. Most enjoyable music, with hints of Brahms (it's on the CD 'In the Shadow of Brahms Vol. 2') but it has also some impressionistic moments, so to speak. The excellent booklet notes by Matthias Wiegandt learns that Zilcher composed 114 works with opus number and quite a lot without titles or opus number. I'm wondering how his 5 symphonies sound like.
Yes, Zilcher is a hidden composer who deserves our attention.

[Rainolf]

I'm wondering how his 5 symphonies sound like.

His 3rd doesn't sound like symphonies regulary do, because it's an original composition for two pianos.

A CD with the 5th and other works could be ordered by the Tonkünstlerverband Bayern (No. 38 in the list):

http://www.dtkvbayern.de/monographienreihe/71-verzeichnis-der-tondokumente.html

[mikehopf]

Sorry, Alan, but the Zilcher Trio & Quintet are on a commercial CD ( Largo Records).

Try www.amazon.de to order.

However, I have found a tape ( originally from Mike Herman) which features his Violin Concerto No.2.
The same tape has a Violin Concerto by Karl Klinger ( 1907) ... any interest?

I'll keep on looking for the Piano Concerto... just another 20,000 tapes to look through....

[mikehopf]

That should read: Karl KLINGLER  ... but what the "L"!

[JimL]

Yes and yes.  Oh, and yes.  In case I forgot to approve something else.