Glière Symphony No.3 'Ilya Murometz'

[dhibbard]

  @MartinH

Yes, they (Fleisher) said I would have to make my own copies... and then some items they would not lend... I would have to come there to copy them....uggg

[adriano]

@dhibbard
Apparently there is a copy on the way to me (from another source). As soon as it arrives, I will let you know, so I can make a copy for you.

[Gareth Vaughan]

Here's a list of just a few things I've tried to acquire for performance recently:

1. Victor Herbert: Festival March.
2. Robert Farnon: Westminster Waltz.
3. Albert Ketelbey: Cockney Suite.

There used to be a set of parts for Ketelbey's "Cockney Suite" in the Birmingham Conservatoire - and they used to lend them through inter-library loan. Whether they still do or not, I don't know. And you may have already tried this avenue and hit a dead end.

[dhibbard]

     @hadrianus

Yes.... thank you....  sorry I have had too much wine tonight.... this CoVid-19 issue has made me buy too much wine..  I now have a huge stash of red and white wine to keep me and the wife happy!!    Ha!!     I am resorting to listenting to Mozart (best of on Naxos) to keep everyone happy!!

[Christopher]

@Hadrianus - do you mean this Soviet documentary "Berlin" (made in 1945)?  https://youtu.be/XXQrWYeFm8c  Ilya Muromets is audible at 12 minutes but it doesn't last for long...

[adriano]

Thanks Cristopher - this is it: I did not know that it was posted on YouTube!
Anyway, a copy is now on the way to me...
I saw it for the first time at the Mosfilm archive in the 1990s
Very odd that this heroic Romantic "legend" music - having nothing in common with Communism - is being used for propaganda purposes. But Hitler too, he used Liszt's "Les Préludes" as a signal of his Reichssender...

[Justin]

Is the extract that they're using the beginning of the fourth movement? If so, I can see why they used it as it represents an "imminent threat," followed by the scenes of the artillery in the film.

[adriano]

Will analyse this soundtrack once I have received the video. I am too busy at the moment, Justin.

[Justin]

Leon Botstein's performance with "The Orchestra Now," dating from 2018:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-5DibKadVg

[sdtom]

I know people really don't want to know this but the symphony was used in the Lone Ranger episodes on the radio.

[Justin]

Is there a certain episode we can listen to with this symphony? I'm interested in hearing how it fits with the story.

[sdtom]

Will see what I can do for you

[eschiss1]

IMDb which often lists use of composer's music in TV and movie soundtracks doesn't mention any Glière in the Lone Ranger (see Glière entry) but this might be an oversight/incompleteness. Without checking the entries for all the episodes of the Lone Ranger I can't see if any of them list any music other than the Rossini...

[soundwave106]

The Lone Ranger (apparently both in its TV and radio incarnations) apparently used a lot of classical music aside from the Rossini, not all of them well known pieces. For instance, I found a TalkClassical thread where someone asked to identify the music in this clip. It ended up being a fast tempo version of Joseph Hellmesberger's "Storm Scene (Gewitterszene)" - not sure about its status in the 1950s, but that's quite an obscure piece these days. I don't think a complete lists exists in official credits, as the pieces were chosen because they were considered public domain compositions. Someone's put together a book with all the references he could find though.

[Alan Howe]

And with that, let's return to the topic - unless, that is, someone can unearth which parts of the Glière are used in The Lone Ranger.