Hans Franke (1882-1971)

[Alan Howe]

I can't find any reference to Franke being in Magdeburg.

[eschiss1]

sorry, my mistake!

[eschiss1]

When searching for originals of chamber works, unlike large orchestral works, I'm not sure the key necessarily has to be the same- consider Rheinberger's own transcription of his E minor violin sonata to a E-flat minor clarinet sonata. The original source of the trio might not even always be a piano trio- might be a wind work, e.g. I wish IMSLP's melody search weren't so absolutely buggy. RISM's isn't very useful, but it's worth trying.

[Alan Howe]

That's very helpful, Eric. Thanks.

[Alan Howe]

Thomas Stamm-Kuhlmann,

I nearly didn't question this, but I'm assuming you meant Thomas Schmidt-Kowalski.

[Ilja]

Thomas Stamm-Kuhlmann,

I nearly didn't question this, but I'm assuming you meant Thomas Schmidt-Kowalski.

Oopsie. Yes, of course. Stamm-Kuhlmann is an historian who wrote the biography of the Prussian king Frederick William III ("The most boring man to live in interesting times") that I used for my Master's thesis somewhere around the time of the Reformation.

And rest assured, this exhausts my knowledge of double-barrelled German Thomases.

[Alan Howe]

It matters not.

[eschiss1]

btw re Raff, Weingartner conducted the 3rd in March 1924 with the Vienna Philharmonic- I wish that had been broadcast/recorded/something.

[Alan Howe]

In Vienna, I assume?

On reflection, I think the chances are that Franke didn't dare choose any scores by Raff. Memories of his music would have been too recent and too widespread - and conductors are likely at least to have known about his music.

[Alan Howe]

Having emailed Vogt & Fritz asking them whether they knew that Franke's 6th Symphony was in fact identical to the A minor Symphony by Fritz Kauffmann, I have had the following holding reply in English:

Dear Mr. Howe,

This seems to be very interesting, indeed. We will check it and keep you informed.

With best regards

Elke Tober-Vogt

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[Alan Howe]

Do friends think I should also make reference to the Piano Trio in D and the Piano Concerto?

[Mark Thomas]

Certainly you should. They bolster the case against Franke and their origin isn't in doubt.

[Alan Howe]

I have done as you suggest, Mark.

I'm really hoping they genuinely didn't know about this...

[eschiss1]

I'm hoping they don't sue all current publishers (those who make available, not literally publishers; IMSLP is an obvious target) of e.g. Hill's trio claiming that _we've_ stolen Franke's work instead. This move would not be unprecedented.

[terry martyn]

Why should they?   None of us are making any allegations against them