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Borodin Mlada Finale

Started by chriss, Wednesday 15 July 2020, 15:55

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chriss

I know Borodin is not unsung but this piece perhaps.  Rimsky-Korsakov orchestrated Borodin's sketches for the Finale of the Ballet Opera Mlada. I remember a broadcast of this rare composition over 20 years ago by the NDR Sinfonieorchester.

The Mlada Finale was once available on LP but was it ever released on CD?

Alan Howe

If you mean the recording conducted by Loris Tjeknavorian, I don't think it was ever issued on CD.

The original version (ripped from LP) can be heard here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hM_4D_FGaHg

Alan Howe

Thanks to britishcomposer, the performance with the NDR Sinfonieorchester (now NDR Elbphilharmonie)
conducted by Siegfried Köhler is now available in our Download Board, here:
http://www.unsungcomposers.com/forum/index.php/topic,7868.msg82395.html#new

chriss

Thank you very much for the link!  :)

The Tjeknavorian album with Borodin's orchestral compositions is outstanding. Unfortunately the Mlada piece was not included in the CD reissues.
There also was an early recording from Russia. Don't know if it was from an LP recording or from a broadcast.


britishcomposer

I see there is some inconsistency concerning the date of Rimsky's orchestration. The youtube video gives 1890.
I referred to the wikipedia list:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_compositions_by_Alexander_Borodin

TerraEpon

The book I have also gives 1890.

So odd this one seems to be under the radar....sucks since I love both composers.

der79sebas

By the way, the recent "Prince Igor" from the MET (Abdrazakov, Noseda) uses also this Mlada-fragment as orchestral finale, which, by the way, is not at all convincing (as is the rest of the production):

https://www.deutschegrammophon.com/de/katalog/produkte/borodin-prince-igor-abdrazakov-petrenko-noseda-529

der79sebas

It would be nice to have a "complete" Mlada - has it ever been tried to collect all the fragments and to create an approximation to what might have been the final outcome of the project?

chriss

The Abdrazakov/Noseda "Igor" was unfortunately not released on CD.

It's strange that there is no recording of the Mlade Finale available. Not even on Naxos. Chandos at least did a recording of Rimsky's obscure orchestration of "Funiculì, funicula".

Mark Thomas

Quote from: der79sebas on Thursday 16 July 2020, 09:56
a "complete" Mlada - has it ever been tried to collect all the fragments and to create an approximation to what might have been the final outcome of the project?
See this detailed Wikipedia article. There is as yet no definitive reconstruction. Much the five composers' contributions were re-used by them, but recordings of the reworked pieces are patchy. I don't believe that Cui's first act or Minkus' ballet music has been recorded, but most of Mussorgsky's contributions have been in their final form, while Rimsky-Korsakov's found their way into several of his operas, which have been recorded. The same goes for Borodin in his Prince Igor (although there both R-K and Glazunov are responsible for the finished piece).

Christopher

There's quite a comprehensive account of the Mlada project on Wikipedia, describing how it also had the involvement of Mussorgsky and Cui and what happened to the material that they also wrote.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mlada

Mark Thomas

Umm...didn't I just say all that?  ???

Alan Howe


tappell

I am also surprised this has never been recorded. A very attractive piece, and the closing bars particularly, capture Borodin's melodic style.

eschiss1

How'd we go from "never issued on CD" to "never recorded" all in one go? I thought an LP recording was mentioned above. (If "this" means the complete Mlada using the contributions of all the composers, then sorry, just misunderstood...  after all, the title still says "Borodin Mlada Finale", and this, well, is "this". Isn't "that" "so"?) Edit: except for some of his songs, one opera, one string quartet, a couple of discs of orchestral music, and some piano music, recordings of Cui's music are really thin on the ground and apologetically made anyway, so maybe I'm just not surprised that his contribution has never been commercially recorded; it seems people really do -not like- him... (edit: oh, and his violin sonata on Olympia, and a couple of other things, but basically, yeah.)